Barack Obama’s birth hour still in question: is Scorpio rising?

Update Oct 29 2008: it’s pillory time for not snagging the link to the article, I know, but today I saw side-by-side the images of two Hawaiian newspapers who carried – at the time – birth announcements for Barack Oabma. This doesn’t confirm his birth hour, of course, but it does confirm Hawaii as the place he drew his first breath making him qualifiable to run for US president.

The site with the newspaper images was http://whatreallyhappened.com/

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Imagine my glee when receiving an email from AstroDataBank today with chart info for Senator Barack Obama. Ah hah! I thought, at last a verified and correct time is known….but no, it’s still in dispute.

A Noon chart is used in their article which works well for anyone in the public eye, for Noon is generally (depending on time zone) the most visible point in a chart representing Public Status and Career. Noon is symbolic for these issues so this is what you’ll find here along with several possible birth times which others have used:

http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/ObamaBarack.htm

As previously mentioned, the 1:06 pm chart that’s in circulation online is problematic for me–I still having trouble seeing Obama as an intense Scorpio rising person. Perhaps he is, but I guess I’ll have to SEE the birth certificate to be sure. Unless or until I do, here are some notes on Scorpio rising–some old ones from who-knows-where, and some from Martin Schulman’s ‘The Ascendant: Your Karmic Doorway’:

Scorpio Ascendant is the most mysterious in the zodiac and, like the sign Scorpio in general, may have positive and negative connotations. Scorpio ASCs feel a sense of never-ending regenerative power working through them blended with very high ideals.

Great transformations are typical with the sign of the scorpion-phoenix-eagle rising, and they are ‘seekers’ to the nth degree. Scanning the surface won’t do for Scorpio Ascendants–they have an uncanny ability to understand the unconscious as they intuitively bring meaning, purpose, and fulfillment to their expectations of the future. (Scorpio is the sign of the spy or detective–and of very big business.)

As an intuitive Water sign, Scorpio ASCs may absorb impressions from the environment and believe them to be their own (the other Water signs tend to do this, too–Cancer and Pisces) and since Scorpio is the sign of elimination, identifying with the waste of society may cause anger, resentment, and bitterness. There may be a preoccupation with death and/or the occult and a raging case of paranoia which causes an obsession with isolation as a defense to avoid imagined persecutions.

The positive attributes of Scorpio rising sound more like the Senator–see what you think:

Scorpio ASCs are individualistic, perceptive, and have great depth which may act as a channel for inner potentials to emerge. There is a powerful sense of dedication and purpose in all that is undertaken and the Self is seen as an endless succession of growth experiences.

When Scorpio is rising and the self-identity is firmly rooted within this ASC, closing doors on the past is easy so that anything which does not serve a higher purpose may be shut out and left behind to enable future growth and development. It becomes less important to transform the world than to transform the Self (which would accomplish the same if everyone would do it!)

Letting go of what can’t be controlled results in the knowledge that true wisdom is in knowing oneself, and a fount of healing is available to the positively expressed Scorpio ASC because it lives through a clear, precise stream of consciousness which enables it to cut through life’s shams with ease.

Seeing how outward appearances are the result of the inner nature of creation–a kind of x-ray perception or vision–and having an intimate relationship with the very roots of life give evidence of Scorpio’s depth which is capable of the deepest understanding of any sign–and wisely, self-mastery is the ultimate and deepest goal of the Scorpio Ascendant.#

Well, if Obama does have Scorpio rising, he’ll do better in the race if he doesn’t identify himself closely with what is characterized (by his aides or others) as his opponents’ negative traits.

But that’s good advice in general no matter which zodiacal sign an office seeker may have rising, lest the name-calling “slips off me and sticks to you.”

UPDATE May 18: as you know by now, Senator Obama’s birth time has been revealed to be 7:11 pm and you will find his natal chart in the sidebar of my Pages list. Sorpio, it turns out, is at Midheaven, the most public point in any chart, so in the outer world, Scorpio is on display…but Aquarius is rising!

LAST UPDATE on the subject HOPEFULLY: now it’s “7:24 pm”…AQ rising with his ears poking out as I thought! And folks with AQ rising are usually tall and on the skinny or lanky side…as was Abraham Lincoln.