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Hillary Clinton Oct 26, 1947: Fist of God

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Hillary Clinton Oct 26 1947

Since I’ve never posted this natal chart on Stars Over Washington, I am hereby succumbing to pressure and publishing the most-oft-used natal chart of Senator Hillary Clinton, born Oct 26, 1947, 8:00 pm cst, Chicago, Illinois, and with her Fist of God pattern highlighted.

As you know, 29 degrees is considered a critical or crisis degree for any planet or point. It’s a high frequency, impatient degree that’s in a hurry to rush ahead. If 8:00 pm is indeed her correct birth time, you see 29Gem+ rising, and a 29 degree Moon in 10th house of Career and Public Standing.

HOWEVER–a change of 1 minute–to 8:01 pm–gives a 00Can03 ASC (physical self) which would tally more closely with her round Cancerian face, wouldn’t it? And it doesn’t change the Moon’s degree or much else in the chart.

So this 29 degree Moon is about to reach the Aries Point of Prominence and Fame. Sounds like our gal, doesn’t it? She admits that she’d spent her life getting ready for Jan 20, 2009–for the Oval Office, the highest prominence of all.

Her natal Moon is the focal ‘planet’ of a dynamic Fist of God pattern, yet you won’t find a lot of info on this configuration. I will attempt to give you what I’ve found and we’ll see if it illuminates Clinton’s chart and psyche a little.

A Fist of God patttern was so-named by astrologer Al Epstein, as cited by Nona Gwynn Press in her book, ‘New Insights into Astrology.’ It consists of a square (90 degr) combined with two sesquiquadrates (135 degr).

A square is, of course, a major aspect of dynamic developmental tension which indicates internal blockages or obstacles–and without them few people would stir themselves to produce anything useful at all.

(fyi: a few years ago I was awakened from a lucid dream about Astrology with these words being whispered in my ear: “Squares form due to essential quests.”  Take this with a grain of sandman’s dust, if you prefer.)

Sesquiquadrates (sesquisquares) are minor aspects indicating “the apex of interfunctional activity culminating in a dramatic and intense release of dynamic energies.” (‘The Astrology of Relationship,’ Michael R. Meyer.)

They are considered weak squares and thus are developmental in nature–perhaps on an even deeper psychological level for they are actually two interlaced squares. They urge toward dynamic self-expression and the promotion of one’s ideas.

Obviously Politics as a profession is a perfect outlet for this energy and Hillary’s two sesquisquares are pointing toward her publicity hound Moon (the public) in the oh-so-visible 10th house.

Somewhat similar to the YOD (aka the Finger of God, a special task or crisis configuration with an easier sextile as its base), the Fist of God, says Epstein, is even more likely to manifest externally than a YOD might.  I suspect that a YOD is more of a choice situation although you’d do better to listen to the call when it comes!

And since Clinton’s pattern involves some difficult energies at its base–her powerful Mars-Pluto conjunction in showy Leo, squaring Chiron conj Venus in intense Scorpio, her determination to interact with and push ideas upon the American public (and the world–10th house) is clearly visible in her natal chart bwo her Fist of God pattern.

Yet as with everything in Astrology, all factors describe our inner AND outer worlds–simultaneously or at the time chosen, for that’s the thing Astrology can bring to the table that no other system can–the element of time.

Interestingly, the 29 Scorpio+ Moon in the 2009 Inaugural chart is trine Clinton’s natal Moon in Pisces. Yet the transiting midpoint of Saturn-North Node  is conjunct 2009’s Inaugural Moon…

Saturn-NN= Moon: appealing to senior persons; qualifying for responsibility; a person standing alone in the world; emotional inhibitions; showing precocious maturity (Tyl; Ebertin.)

(That last sounds more like Obama, doesn’t it? But I’m not sure how ‘precocious’ a 40-something can be. Perhaps I should ask still-partying-at-40-something George Bush. He might know.)

Then there’s the fact that Clinton’s natal Jupiter is conjunct the Inaugural Moon so we have…

Saturn-NN = Jupiter: the generation gap; rebellion; freeing oneself from stress; inner joy through sacrificing for others; a fortunate separation from a partner (!); change of place or occupation.

So there we go–a snapshot of Hillary Clinton’s high frequency natal chart with its special pattern of extreme drive toward public work.

And even though the most recent news report I have today is that Obama has regained ground through late returns for last evening’s Texas caucuses, Hillary will not be giving up any time soon–unless the Pennsylvania Primary of April 22 changes her determined mind.

Hmmm…April 22….another chart to study!


Written by Jude Cowell

March 5, 2008 at 5:54 pm

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  1. furthermore, do her chart using chelsea’s as her lunar return degree … it puts bill at the top of her chart and his taurus moon in her 7th


    Sonja Foxe

    April 17, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    • Hi Sonja, thanks! that’s an intriguing idea. Esp since we have no accurate birth time for her–I’ll check it out. I haven’t looked at Chelsea’s chart in years but should do so. Thanks for your comments though I can’t post your first one about the alley even though we all (even politicians who exalt themselves above the masses) must reap what’s been sown.


      Jude Cowell

      April 17, 2016 at 5:25 pm

  2. Wow, Jane, thanks for your valuable insights!

    I can testify to something here that I have P moon in the lower hemisphere and although very shy as a child, I have no particular problem with public speaking and indeed work with the public (although on more of a one-to-one basis normally) in my ‘real’ job.

    Your extensive work with clients takes precedence for sure over my meager blurbing and I confess to never feeling I complete a chart analysis online–too much typing plus I have a theory that no one reads an over-longish article anyway. To blog at all is sometimes quite a feat around here esp living on Turtle Lane.

    So you’re for Scorpio rising? That makes a lot of sense given Clinton’s one-pointed and intense focus on power, but her Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Chiron in Scorpio may account for her obvious intellectual talents and love of power, too, ya think?

    Now I’m wondering if you give credit to physical traits and the ASC sign, because I really do see her as a having Cancer rising–which is accomplished by a one minute change–to 8:01 pm–from the prevalent 8 pm chart most in use.

    Self-protective Cancer rising would also flesh out her “no one really knows her” vibe along with Pisces at Mc–“hiding in plain sight” as Elsa Elsa has said.

    Actually my “is Sco rising?” query was written when HC’s birth time was being questioned almost everywhere I looked online…perhaps it’s settled for most astrologers now…I dunno.

    Plus, with her Sco planets in 5th/6th house of Service, her use of the word ‘service’ would seem appropriate as well.

    Well, so far I’ve not found anyone who agrees with me on her moon-shaped face with 00Can rising…but it seems so obvious to me!!!!!! And you KNOW what an angular World Point can do for a person, hard as it may be to give up on a critical 29 degr ASC (but the 29 degr Moon is retained in the 8:01 pm chart.)

    Thanks a bunch for commenting and please leave a link for your work, if you please! The more political astrologers to keep squinty eyes on political thespians, the better imho—jude ;p



    May 30, 2008 at 1:42 am

  3. type’0′ ps. reverse am and pm on the above post. meant to say am for scorpio rising and pm for gemini…

    just can’t seem to work without my glasses but i keep trying.



    May 29, 2008 at 4:04 pm

  4. Hi Jude. I am astrologer, have spent many years research in political astrology and have a couple of comments about the 8 pm vs 8 am chart for Hillary I’d like to share. My experience spans over 30 years and many clients.

    I have worked with clients that have a chart similar to the 8 am chart, gemini rising, pisces moon in the upper hemisphere and the rest of the planets in the lower. These people are always reclusive and very off balance in public. The p. moon is so absorbant they get stimilus overload so easily. Those I have worked with that have a reverse scenario with the p-moon in the lower hemisphere and and any number of combinations in the upper are the opposite, very strong, very capable in public settings, usually seek out the lime light or at least enjoy it, and very committed to change for the better. That moon sign seems to need to be in the lower hemisphere for them to stay grounded to take the pisces gifts to their outer world. This is just my experience and I am sure others have different experiences.

    I also have worked with clients that have a scorpio rising with a personal planet conjunct such as mars mercury or jupiter. Talk about a quick wit and sharp mind. These people really excel. When that planetary placement is on the ascendent that trait is the most obvious.

    Cheers. Hope this is useful. Thanks for your site.

    jayne ollin

    Liked by 1 person


    May 29, 2008 at 3:41 pm

  5. How encouraging of you to comment so, Renee–thanks a bunch! jude



    March 8, 2008 at 2:10 am

  6. Can’t wait to read your April 22nd analysis! This was a great read, thank you 🙂



    March 8, 2008 at 12:00 am

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