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Donald Trump and Carelli’s 4 Virgo Symbol

On October 25, 2017 on Stars Over Washington I published a post concerning the 2017 and 2019 Secondary Progressed (SP) New Moons of Donald Trump (2019) and Adolf Hitler (2017).

That both SP New Moons fall upon 3Virgo+ seems significant to me due to the degree’s Sabian Symbol and the shared bigotry and eugenic-style views of both politicians. Follow the link for the entire picture but its gist is, “Black and White Children Play Together Happily…”. Also note that the post also contains the natal midpoint pictures of Trump and Hitler (for the sake of comparison).

As you know, Trump was ‘victor’ in 2016 and was inaugurated in 2017 while mired within his Balsamic phase of the Moon, the darkened phase full of endings and separations, a time when sneakiness abounds and things can ‘go bump in the night’. Symbolically, he remains within it now yet light will begin to dawn and a glimmer of a new phase of life will begin with his SP New Moon which perfects on September 19, 2019 in early Virgo- not that an instant difference will be felt or observed.

Here I shall add to the Sabian Symbol a partial quote concerning what *Adriano Carelli has to say about ‘4 Virgo’ to which I have added a few remarks in (italics):

“A steamroller”: A craze for planning and technology; a naive faith in purely mechanical progress; contempt for individual distinctions; love of the extreme and of the absolute. Some features of fatality in the existence, something inexorable in the character. A massive strength, an ability to lay out on broad lines work to be carried out by others and to give it the finishing touches after completion.

This same force, instead of preparing and perfecting usefully the work of others, can stay fruitless and can sponge upon its environment; or, even worse, instead of loveling (leveling? jc) and paving the way for the execution of the work planned, he can be employed to destroy and raze everything aimlessly to the ground.

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…where the stars point to fondness for the fruitless, artificial life usually led by the smartest set of society, a rush for pleasure will swallow up wealth laboriously built up by the ancestors. Plenty of well-meaning and helpful friends will be powerless to save the native from bankruptcy; once collapsed, neither his taste nor his artistic gifts (‘The Art of the Deal’? jc) will be of any avail. A third case is possible: an aggressive, destructive, brutal, and despotically leveling nature–in a word, a downright Vandalic or Hunnish character.

Undeniable in all cases is a profound sense of truth (he knows it but won’t tell it! jc), unaccountably coupled with fast living or ruthless destructiveness. (Or  both–jc.)

Example: in this degree is the Third Reich’s Mars as ruler of the Sun (Sun’s degree) and therefore lord of the MC, viz., indicative of the government and the army.”

Also note that a solar eclipse in Mr. Trump’s Prenatal Solar Eclipse (PE) Saros Series (2 Old North) perfects on July 12, 2018 with themes of ‘unfortunate news’ and ‘endings and separations’ yet ‘fast action can bring good results’ (Brady).

edit 13 July 2018: who exactly are the results good for? jc

‘4 Virgo’ quote from Carelli’s 360 Degrees of the Zodiac (1950).

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Election in November or not?

As the 2008 campaign endlessly grinds on I’m receiving more comments here and there (‘there’ being Stars Over Washington) that the US may not be having elections this November, the lastest from one of my favorite people,  Jilly.

And I’ve written on the possibility myself – October Surpise, false flag op, martial law – whatever it takes for Bush to stay in the White House (a horrid horrid thought, isn’t it?) if they think McCain can’t win; so when readers with intuitive abilities tell me that the Nov elections may be called off or disrupted beyond repair, it makes me think yet again that what has been worked toward for so long and at such price and effort will not be easily surrendered to the ‘other team’ – if at all.

If that’s the case, it’s too bad that America and the needs of the American people get lost in their egoistic, power-mad shuffle.

Today I’ve been looking at the Secondary Progressed midpoints (and charts) for the Democratic Party (born May 13, 1792 NS; 12:00 pm LMT; Philadelphia, PA) and the Republican Party (born July 6, 1854 NS; 5:00 pm LMT; Jackson, MI.)

Since tonight marks the last of the three presidential debates, I’m comparing today’s Seconday midpoints with those of Nov 4, 2008 and for Jan 20, 2009, and the only difference is in the Dem’s chart…the diffcult Saturn/Pluto duo rises by Nov 4…

Saturn/Pluto = ASC: placed in cumbersome and difficult circumstances; separation; bereavement.

Also the Saturn-Pluto midpoint in the Republican Party’s Progressions is conj Sec NN and will continue to be for some time: common suffering shared with others; the misery of the masses.

Now there are many more good indcations than the one negative one for both parties. The Dems’ Sec Sun is conj Sec Mc, for instance. But I looked for what changed between now and Jan20, 2009.

And it’s no weakness or lack in Astrology for Astrology describes the many levels of life we all contend with – good mixed with bad. Plus, motives always matter and sometimes things come seemingly from out of nowhere – at least we are unconscious of them until they actually occur, then it’s a Doh! Moment a la Homer Simpson, isn’t it? “Who saw that coming?” we ask incredulously.

Well, since I’m “under the weather” today and feeling somewhat puny, I’ll simply close with the current Secondary ‘Images for Integration’ for each party.  You might get a kick out of them – or perhaps a chill:

Democrats: Sun Sag-Moon Cap: “In the year 2999, a courageous explorer goes on a quest for knowledge of the past which opens up for man a hopeful future on another planet…With patient skill a rock climber scales a seemingly impossible mountain peak.”

Republicans: Sun Sag-Moon Cancer: “A homing pigeon…An evangelist offers a vision of personal salvation…An international nanny…Jimi Hendrix’s Woodstock rendition of ‘The Star Spangled Banner’…William Blake’s watercolour, ‘Teach These Souls to Fly’.” (Tate Gallery, London.)

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(‘Sun Sign-Moon Sign’ by Chas & Suzy Harvey.) (midpoints: Tyl; Ebertin.)

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Heads-Up Oct 15: check the Pages list in the sidebar column for a sprinkling of astrological notes on journalist Keith Olbermann (Jan 27, 1959) and a link to the text of his call yesterday for John McCain to suspend his campaign.

Also added: in the category list for ‘2008 campaign’ you’ll find “2008 Electopedia” which is a great resource I’m late finding but am glad I did…it has all sorts of info on Obama and McCain so you can compare and contrast – in no special order a few are: Biggest Lie, Worst Enemy, Best Debate Smackdown, Mentor, Superstitions, and more – all in one spot. Handy!

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