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Comet Lulin and Saturn: show at 1 am!

As Comet Lulin has streaked (or glowed!) toward our neighborhood, its tail has been broken off by solar wind but is now doubled. The gassy green blur will hook up with Saturn in the wee hours after midnight – 1 pm, to be exact, your local time – so be sure to check out this odd couple.

So far I’ve found no astrological writings on Comet Lulin’s significance and I’m not certain I have any insights either. But it couldn’t hurt to consider the chart for 1:00 am est, White House, to see if anything is revealed.

For starters, SpaceWeather is giving the hook-up as occurring in Leo, but for most western astrologers using the Tropical zodiac, this would be Virgo.

A quick way to convert a position between sidereal and tropical zodiacs is to ‘add 6 degrees, subtract 30 degr’ or one sign. So taking Saturn’s position – say, 19 Virgo since the Old Man is Rx, we have 19 + 6 = 25, minus 30 (one sign) = 25 Leo.

And since the Comet is not in my SolarFire software being so recently discovered by Chinese and Taiwanese astronomers, I’m using Saturn’s position (19Vir22 Rx) to mark Comet Lulin’s approximate position as well. (Or 25-26 Leo, if you prefer the sidereal.)

Setting the 1:00 am chart for the White House (Feb 24, 2009) I find that rising is 1Sag45 along with the Mars-Saturn midpoint. (Placidus, true NN, Tropical.)

Mars-Saturn = ASC: obstacles caused by others; struggling for every step of  advancement; separation; the necessity to economize  (Tyl; Ebertin.)

At Midheaven (MC =  the Goal) ) is 16Vir06 with ’17Vir” having what I hope isn’t an apt Sabian Symbol…”A volcano in eruption.” And there near MC is Saturn 19Vir22 Rx and the hazy green comet, still within orb of opposing Uranus 21Pis39.

These two planets do tend to be tensionally involved in volcanic or quake-related events with Saturn signifying Earth and tectonic plates, and Uranus = lightening and upsetting events. And comets have sometimes heralded natural disasters.

This could also point to the Middle East, of course, and an event there due to the Saturn-Uranus cycle’s connection to the Middle East, especially to Palestine and Israel.

But I’m focusing here primarily on the economic tsunami ongoing in the West – especially since America’s Lunar Return (27AQ10) occurs soon after at 2:31:50 am, Feb 24, 2o09, Washington time.

As you know, Aquarius is the least stable of the Fixed signs which are known for stability and rigidity. But AQ likes change and freedom with its co-ruler Uranus often the catalyst for it. And Saturn brings change, too, of the long-coming variety. Their opposition isn’t always easy to predict as far as results, but we do know that change, however hard-fought or hard-won, is in the air.

On another level, a political ‘earthquake’ or ‘volcano’ may be on the Saturn-Uranus menu with Comet Lulin the messenger.

Traditonally all comets were viewed as ill omens. But modern Astrology tends to take the up-side. But if you’ve read much of my writings, you’ll know I’m a Saturnian astrologer, seeing DNA where Uranians may see ‘past lives’ and I also prefer to receive the (realistic) bad news first, yet this is difficult for some folks, I know.

Yet you can’t deal with demons or problems until you admit their existence and identify them, so read on, if you may.

Honestly – with the negative things that have occurred in the first 8+ years of the much-touted “New Millenium” – you don’t think I can be all sunshine and flowers now, do you? ;p

So, Saturn rises once more with Fixed Star, Denebola, keywords: ‘to go against society.’ This rising was in play in Fall of 2008 which incriminates the economic crisis and its greedy varmints.

Plus, the electronic run on US banks – the draw down of $550 billion on Sept 18, 2008 – may be more a factor in the financial mess than the Fed is letting on, and mass media (Neptune!) seem to be playing it down as much as possible.

Back to the 1 am chart which shows the  Aquarian line-up positioned in 3rd house:

3rd Cusp 9AQ46 – conj NN 9:13, Mercury 11:34, Jupiter 11:37, Mars 15:14 (conj some difficult asteroids), Chiron 22:11, Neptune 24:23, and Moon 26:22. Sun 5Pis46 (conj Pres. Obama’s natal Chiron) is in 3rd house as well.

If I had time now (gotta motor soon) I’d give all the relevant Sabian Symbols AND their Illumination Points – in this case, their opposition degrees in Leo. Becausewhen so much cosmic energy is tied up with 0ne zodiacal sign, the Illumination Points can be very…illuminating.

Well, my interest in mysterious, veiling Neptune in the chart was tweaked when I noticed that the nebulous giant was focal point of two midpoints relating to criminal activities:

Sun-Mercury = Neptune: inspiration; imagination; deceptions; swindlers and crooks.

Sun-Jupiter = Neptune: the crook; a material loss.

Seems that if we want to find some of the swindlers in the pile, we may glance toward Neptune.

Here are other, somewhat sunnier, midpoint pictures from the chart…

Mars-NN = Mercury: collaboration; forming associations to further one’s own ends.

Mars-NN = Jupiter: successful teamwork.

Uranus-Pluto = Mercury: an inventive, resourceful person; new plans.

Ur-Plu = Jup: striving for social improvements. (Tyl; Ebertin.)

Well, I like the last one in particularly! However, I do think that there may be a ‘message’ from East to West (Lulin’s discovery coming from China/Taiwan) – perhaps an actual message, or one delivered by stealthy actions or interferences on the economic front.

That Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just returned from talks in Beijing may be significant.

And I can’t rule out financial hacking shenanigans from the direction of the Middle East (Neptune = Islam; oil; gas; water) which I believe may be part of stock market volatility of late – or this may describe any persons or countriesin the East.

Or not…the Neptunian interference may originate from several sources, separately or in league…particularly considering that the plutocratic, oppressive Pluto-Chiron midpoint is now conjunct US natal Pluto, secretive planet of abundant power, manipulation, and spying.

So – if you know me, you know I don’t let the western power elite off the hook so easily believing them to be set on destroying the world economy to set up a New World economic and political Order.

Gold-hoarder Midas 7Gem33 is now direct (7th house in the 1:00 am chart) so he may be more active in the world having his money-counting activities caught up for now. And gold-buying businesses and schemes have become popular again as people sell their gold  jewelry for a few bucks.

So! Not a pretty picture unless you agree withme that  a green haze of a Comet is pretty next to ‘golden Saturn’  (as SpaceWeather News has put it…see link below.)

Lulin’s effects over the globe remain to be seen. But coming on the date of Feb 24’s New Moon 6Pis35 – along with the president’s address Tuesday night – we may know quite soon whether or not Comet Lulin has anything important to tell us.

Well, I recommend you check out today’s Comet Lulin-Saturn update I published from SpaceWeather News, if you haven’t already – it has photo gallery links of the lovely Comet as well:


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  1. Oh Kathryn,

    Modesty is good…it’s people who tout themselves as ‘experts’ who usually aren’t!!! Otherwise they wouldn’t have to bleat so loudly, would they?

    Reminds me of the man who says,’Trust Me’…he’s most often the one to watch out for. jude



    February 24, 2009 at 8:28 pm

  2. Whoa – LOL – please, less of the ‘expert’ label! With no trace of false humility, I am just a colleague blogging away. I take the compliment though Jude and thanks again for the heads up on Midas and the great post on Lulin’s significance x


    Kathryn Cassidy

    February 24, 2009 at 5:00 pm

  3. Great stuff, as usual, Jude.

    Madoff and Stanford already unveiled. More to come?

    I had to laugh when you wrote: Gold-hoarder Midas 7Gem33 is now direct.

    My daughter has a 7 Gem Moon. Never knew about Midas being there. She’s so careful ( to be polite) with her money, it’s a joke. A real hoarder. Thanks for that and the rest



    Kathryn Cassidy

    February 23, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    • Kathryn, I am honored that you read my rather hastily written post. And glad it made some sort of sense!

      Your daughter is probably too young to be married, but perhaps one day she’ll find her own lovey-dovey Midas…or is that an oxymoron? Perhaps by that time tr Midas will have moved deeper into Gemini, but he’s mighty slow to change, isn’t he?

      As my daughter was growing up it didn’t take long for her natural “Chandelier Tastes” to show. But with today’s economy it’s mostly a candle budget – and she told me just last week that she doesn’t prefer chandeliers anymore. Ah, yes, reality knocks! Quelle relief.

      Well, thanks for your encouraging comment, it means a lot especially coming from an expert such as yourself! jude



      February 24, 2009 at 12:40 am

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