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Hillary Clinton’s natal chart: is Scorpio rising? Or Cancer?

Just found an excellent Astrology blog with a post by Chris Brennan concerning Senator Hillary Clinton’s natal chart with its disputed time/s of birth:


The current Venus-Saturn conjunction (5Vir+) has taken place on the Midheaven of this Scorpio rising chart which would give her this midpoint picture:

Venus/Saturn = MC: reserve; irritability; being unsatisfied in love; separation; inhibited desires; the urge for solitude; feeling unimportant, or never successful enough.

Transit Saturn will be returning to this degree into July 2008. Saturn to MC (Aspirations; Career and Public Status Point) is for most people when their career is going swimmingly and busily, and more responsibilities may be taken on. Hmmm.

That’s IF Saturn’s lessons in the past have been well-heeded…otherwise, it’s restrictions, suppressions, and being held accountable for past mistakes. She’s been that of late on her congressional voting record, hasn’t she?

Clinton’s proposed Scorpio rising chart (Oct 26, 1947, 8:02 am, Chicago, IL) makes more sense to me than some others that are out there, so let Chris show and tell you about it if you wish!

>Update Jan 1, 2013: finally adding here that I’ve settled on an 8:01 or 8:02 PM natal horoscope for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton primarily because of its 00Cancer Ascendant and 10th house Moon @29Pis+…near the Aries Point of prominence, fame, and recognition. jc

Written by Jude Cowell

October 16, 2007 at 6:40 pm

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  1. Hi Objuan, thanks a bunch, your insights sound feasible but i think i’m sticking with stubborn cussedness of tweaking her 29 Gem rising chart a minute or two for the round-faced, secretive Cancer rising…and its well-known sidescuddling ability when threatened.

    Nervous Gem rising she could not be!!!! and Cancer rising could also have helped her with those alligator tears during the primaries along with a Pisces Moon, of course. jude



    August 22, 2008 at 8:15 pm

  2. Checked a bio of her and found that her mother states she went into labor after midnight and Hillary was born “in time for breakfast.”

    This totally explains a lot about her. Scorpi planets venus/merc conj. in 12th house–big secrets: BIG! And Pisces on the 4th house–neptune ruled, mystical, delusional….things that make you say “hmmmm…” about her homelife.

    And, gee–Mars conj. Pluto in Leo–perhaps a drive for powerful, transformative dramatic men?–or just power and transformation in a dramatic way. Who knows.

    I was born on the same day (1955)–Pisces moon and all, with Gemini rising–she’s not me and I definitely am not her. She has the body features of a Scorpio rising type–thick, not lithe like Gemini.

    She needs to stay in NY and remain out of the Whitehouse for everyone’s own good. She definitely has an axe to grind, and it could be sharpened on our head. I’ll go for Obama–he’s an 11–numerologically speaking…a bit out of his element in politics, but definitely a visionary.



    August 21, 2008 at 6:56 pm

  3. Brenda, I think you’re right. Itl’s June 4 today (& I can see these posts were left a while back), but I’d hazard a guess “it aint over till it’s over.” Even tho Obama is the “apparent” nominee tonight, earlier today I tuned into my intuition. What I got was that something interesting is going to come out now about Obama. I think that’s why Hillary’s holding onto her well-earned delegates, she’s no stranger to politics. And Obama is a Chicago politician, a city absolutely not associated with above-board politics.
    Guess time will tell, and as another poster said, “fasten your seatbelts.”
    I’d also like to add, don’t believe everything you read in the news, the reporters aren’t entirely awake here either… Peace, All.



    June 5, 2008 at 4:20 am

  4. Has anyone done a combined/partnership chart with Hillary and Cheney? And Obama and Cheney? I think that is the key, whoever can take him on would win my vote.



    March 22, 2008 at 4:07 pm

  5. Agreed on Uranus near ASC, Beth, totally.

    Well, I’ve decided (I’m the decider ’round here)–I’m switching H Clinton’s natal chart to 00Can03 rising which better describes her round face–and I can’t see her as Gem rising.

    This only requires one minute of change to 8:01 pm and puts her ASC on-the -degree for World Point 00Can00. It also retains her 29Pis+ Moon and slightly changes one house axis.

    And having a Watery Can ASC with Watery Pis MC can help with the publicly displayed tears.




    March 8, 2008 at 10:32 am

  6. This may seem like a silly observation, but its the little things in astrology that help confirm your impressions. I agree with 8:00 PM birth time. That gives her Uranus in Gemini in the 12th. Watch what she wears. She has this yellow suit that until recently she insisted on wearing. Does not look good on her! She has more fashion misses than hits, which can happen with Uranus sitting so close to the ascendant.



    March 4, 2008 at 7:46 am

  7. Dear Jude:

    I trust my instincts on this one and I think Obama will get the nomination but it will be for the wrong reasons and the energy about him leaves me very uneasy. Something is not all that it seems where he is concerned and it has nothing to do with his muslim name. So for the first time in my life I will not vote democratic if he gets the nomination. No matter what the progressive chart says, divine intervention can sometimes occure.





    February 29, 2008 at 4:51 am

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