Barack Obama Aug 4, 1961 7:24 pm

Update 4.3.11: Finally thought to update this post-iwth-whiskers with what seems to be Mr. Obama’s correct birth time from his B.C.: 7:24 pm AHST. The following post and natal horoscope will not be edited; Aquarius remains his Ascending sign at 7:24 pm with 18AQ+ rising.

Chart: Senator Barack Obama, Aug 4, 1961 Honolulu, Hawaii, newly uncovered birth hour: “7:11 pm” AHST (not! Midpoint pictures remain the same as well at the corrected hour of 7:24 pm. jc)

Breaking News Update Oct 13, 2008: it’s started again: some grumblings of Obama actually being born in Coast Provincial Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, same date.  Barack Obama sure was born a lot. More on this later if the story has legs…

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By now you’ve heard that astrologer Joni Palfrey announced ’7:11 pm’ as Barack Obama’s correct birth time at the UAC Conference in Denver this week, garnered from a client with campaign connections.

Perhaps the disclosure was okayed by the candidate himself!

Please click to enlarge the chart and read the midpoint pictures if you wish, two of which sit upon his Mc, the Goals/Aspirations/Career/Public Status Point of the any chart. The third picture listed is pointing to natal Uranus 25Leo16 in 7th house of Partnerships, and more fully it’s:

Sun/Pluto = Uranus: carrying out fanatic reforms without regard for oneself; sudden adjustment to new circumstances; new individual perspectives; rebellion.

7:11 pm AHST in Honolulu gives his birth as occurring during a Mars Hour, suitable for Martian things, and although technically his Uranus/Pluto midpoint doesn’t hit exactly upon natal North Node, a point of connection to the public, it has by progressions, so we see:

Uranus/Pluto = NN: untiring colleague; teamwork pays off but one’s own ego is put first in line; desire to accomplish immense tasks with others; sharing upsets or excitement with others.

Also around the outside of this chart you see US natal Neptune 22Vir25 and its link to Obama’s natal Mars (his perceived ‘rockstar status’ as the media calls it) and which may be called ‘activating (Mars) America’s ideals and dreams (Neptune.)’

This is, of course, part of his massive appeal–along with his inspirational orating abilities (see: “Mercuries of the Candidates: Barack Obama”)–plus, there is another glamorous Neptunian connection–his natal Neptune 8Sco36 conjuncts US natal ASC in the Scorpio Rising chart. Those with Neptune in Scorpio have magnetic appeal galore and often a dreamy sexiness.

As you see here, the 7:11 pm birth time gives Obama an Aquarian ASC–just as I had wondered out loud about previously–his Abe Lincoln-esque ears gave him away for me since the ASC tells about the physical body, and Lincoln has 00AQ+ Rising–and 00AQ+  conjuncts Obama’s natal Jupiter.

Natural politicians tend to have 12th house placements (which describe their unconscious arrogance) so we see that his out-of-sign conj of Saturn, strong in its own sign of Capricorn (sign of government, politics, law, and business) is in 12th house with his Aquarian Jupiter, a placement I have discussed here previously.

An AQ ASC means that Saturn is chart-ruler, or if you prefer using outer planets as rulers (I don’t), Uranus becomes chart-ruler. Still, this makes Uranus tres important in his chart and life, and Uranus in 7th can bring loss through opponents and public contests esp if nearby Pluto in Virgo so desires–and transiting Saturn (Hillary? or someone else in the Dem Party?) has been playing about with Obama’s Pluto of late.

Now having your chart-ruler in 12th house and Rx isn’t such a helpful thing, but Obama’s situation is mitigated by having protective Jupiter there as well–the two societal planets together, a strong indication of ambition and determination toward success.

Yet Saturn in 12th house indicates secret enemies working for his downfall, and the headlines tell us this week that 2004′s “Swiftboaters” are now on his case and intend to “viciously attack” him. (Hope his 12th house Jupiter softens the results of their dirty tricks.)

After I saw this chart for 7:11 pm, you know I was soon viewing composites of it with the US Sco Rising chart, and the Inauaguration 2009 chart (Jan 20, noon, DC.) The composite of natal with the Inaugural chart was disturbing–an 8th house full of planets in Scorpio.

Other composite chart factors were worrying as well, and I have stated before that if Obama does gain the White House–and chart indications are that he could if The People have their way–he may not finish the full 4 years. Sometimes you like to be wrong, and I prefer that this be the case–for his and for America’s sake.

Another Jan 20, 2009 indication is that his natal chart has the Sun/ASC midpoint conj Inaugural ASC 14Tau, and his fortunate Jupiter/NN midpoint 14Sco05 is opposite and thus conj Inaugural DESC.

But perhaps the strongest link for any candidate indicating success in gaining the office of US president is having planets in the 24-28 degree range of Leo or AQ–opposite or conjunct US natal Moon (The People) – because so many presidents have had this degree area active natally and/or by progression.

(And the US Scorpio chart’s ASC link with his idealistic Neptune–although it may turn out to be disillusioning or full of loss–is an indicator of potential success as well, tenuous link though it may be.)

As you see, Obama has Uranus and NN within the 24–28 range in Leo which places his SN conj US natal Moon in 1st house of Self.

Will this help him win the Democrat’s nom and perhaps White House tenure?

Moon/SN links have karmic implications and a wrong-place-at-the-wrong-time flavor along with bad timing issues. To me this supports my misgivings that he would be able to complete his term in the Oval Office if elected–and it may also weaken his prez case with the American people.

OR….Moon/SN could simply mean that he reminds us of someone from our nation’s past–a previous president such as Abe Lincoln or JFK? What do you think?

Stay tuned, m’peops, for I intend using this particular *7:11 pm chart “going forward” as the politiicans are so inordinately fond of saying, and will give more credit to what I discover as the campaign year proceeds.

*UPDATE: now using his ’7:24 pm’ chart most often, a time from his birth certificate…guess the campaign worker who cited ’7:11 pm’ had it wrong. But with either chart, the August Solar and Lunar Eclipses will affect Obama on or near his ASC/DESC axis within the 1/7 polarity of Partnerships, Legal Affairs, and the Public.