Just found an excellent Astrology blog with a post by Chris Brennan concerning Senator Hillary Clinton’s natal chart with its disputed time/s of birth:
http://apotelesmatics.com/2007/03/13/hillary-clintons-birth-chart/#comment-1525
The current Venus-Saturn conjunction (5Vir+) has taken place on the Midheaven of this Scorpio rising chart which would give her this midpoint picture:
Venus/Saturn = MC: reserve; irritability; being unsatisfied in love; separation; inhibited desires; the urge for solitude; feeling unimportant, or never successful enough.
Transit Saturn will be returning to this degree into July 2008. Saturn to MC (Aspirations; Career and Public Status Point) is for most people when their career is going swimmingly and busily, and more responsibilities may be taken on. Hmmm.
That’s IF Saturn’s lessons in the past have been well-heeded…otherwise, it’s restrictions, suppressions, and being held accountable for past mistakes. She’s been that of late on her congressional voting record, hasn’t she?
Clinton’s proposed Scorpio rising chart (Oct 26, 1947, 8:02 am, Chicago, IL) makes more sense to me than some others that are out there, so let Chris show and tell you about it if you wish!
retro Said:
on November 20, 2007 at 3:16 pm
As much as I’d like to see a woman president, I don’t trust Hillary as far as I can throw her.
judecowell Said:
on November 20, 2007 at 7:44 pm
No disagreement here! Thanks for your comment, retro. jude
J. Vantine Said:
on January 15, 2008 at 3:01 am
You may want to do alittle more research on the time of Hillary Clinton’s birth. I have found 3 sites with her time of birth at 8:00pm not 12:00pm. This brings her rising sign into late Gemini. Totally different picture. Fasten your seat belts, we’re in for a bumpy ride.
J.Vantine
judecowell Said:
on January 15, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Thanks, V!
I proposed this as a different chart based on another blogger’s work, as cited.
AstroDataBank uses 8:00 pm cst which gives 29Gem12 rising, MC 5Pis07, 10th house Moon–also at critical degree: 29Pis12–which is, of course, conj Aries Point of prominence and fame.
Kit Boehrer confirms 8 pm and says she’s used it for years since before Bill was pres. with good results. 8 pm is the one I generally use as well.
AstrodataBank does say 8:00 pm is ‘DD” for unverfied/cvonflicting.
A Chicago Sun Times article implied ‘early morning’, and Frances McEvoy’s 1998 article in Horoscope Mag has Hillary’s mom saying that she was born “in time for breakfast.”
So that’s why I’ve not published HRC’s chart–others have ad nauseum and there are so many to choose from, and although I enjoy rectification work, I don’t have time for it! ;p
Thanks again for commenting, Jude
DistrictAutocrat Said:
on February 13, 2008 at 6:38 am
Quite frankly as a Scorpio (sun) Scorpio (rising), I think it is not required to have a sense of “trusting” Hillary. Honestly, don’t trust her, that is fine, but just vote for her.
We, Scorpios, are fiercely loyal creatures. America is a Cancer (July 4) and we know that Cancers and Scorpios are wonderful blends. If anything our loyalty translates into possessiveness and jealousy. Not a positive, but allow me to spin this.
She wants power. So the next four years will be great because she wants re-election. She wants a legacy, so the following four years will be great. If anyone, any country, or non-state actor interferes in that process…then SO help them, God. First, they are stepping in the path of a Scorpio’s mission, and second, they would be risking harm on the US, which Hillary sees is her protectorate and something on which she places her loyalty. You do not step towards a Scorpio’s friend in hostile manner because you’ll learn his or her wrath. Hell, you don’t step towards a Scorpio’s foe in a hostile manner because he or she wants the right to strike first.
judecowell Said:
on February 14, 2008 at 1:21 am
Thanks for your insightful comments! You’re intimately familiar with Scorpio energy all right.
Yet I don’t want the Clintons back for many reasons–one is that we’ll never hear the end of the GOP gall against them and America has way too many problems to be diverted from important issues as before…or to have more moola disappear down bogus rabbitholes bwo congressional investigations and such.
And you KNOW it would.
Plus, in my hearts of hearts I know that no matter which “side” one votes for, the globalist shill will be the one installed once again–’the agenda’ must steam ahead and they have no intention of giving up the game with their long-sought end in sight.
Still they won’t keep me home from the booth–so I’ll vote for anyone but another republican…in fact, if a ragmop gets the nomination. I’ll vote for it.
jude ;p
Brenda Said:
on February 18, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Can anyone progress her chart to see if she will win the election?
carlita Said:
on February 22, 2008 at 6:48 pm
I read that she was born near breakfast time in an interview of her mother… what does that mean??? can you do a comparison chart of her and Obama? Can you do a progressive chat and see who has the best ‘power’, stability for the years to come???
thanks!
judecowell Said:
on February 22, 2008 at 10:16 pm
yes thanks, Brenda and carlita–am working on her progr’d chart of late along with many others. Will be using the 8 pm chart for Sen. Clinton. Have you read my article on the 2009 Sec Moon Phases of the candidates? ;p
Brenda Said:
on February 29, 2008 at 4:51 am
Dear Jude:
I trust my instincts on this one and I think Obama will get the nomination but it will be for the wrong reasons and the energy about him leaves me very uneasy. Something is not all that it seems where he is concerned and it has nothing to do with his muslim name. So for the first time in my life I will not vote democratic if he gets the nomination. No matter what the progressive chart says, divine intervention can sometimes occure.
Brenda
Beth Said:
on March 4, 2008 at 7:46 am
This may seem like a silly observation, but its the little things in astrology that help confirm your impressions. I agree with 8:00 PM birth time. That gives her Uranus in Gemini in the 12th. Watch what she wears. She has this yellow suit that until recently she insisted on wearing. Does not look good on her! She has more fashion misses than hits, which can happen with Uranus sitting so close to the ascendant.
judecowell Said:
on March 8, 2008 at 10:32 am
Agreed on Uranus near ASC, Beth, totally.
Well, I’ve decided (I’m the decider ’round here)–I’m switching H Clinton’s natal chart to 00Can03 rising which better describes her round face–and I can’t see her as Gem rising.
This only requires one minute of change to 8:01 pm and puts her ASC on-the -degree for World Point 00Can00. It also retains her 29Pis+ Moon and slightly changes one house axis.
And having a Watery Can ASC with Watery Pis MC can help with the publicly displayed tears.
jude
genny Said:
on March 22, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Has anyone done a combined/partnership chart with Hillary and Cheney? And Obama and Cheney? I think that is the key, whoever can take him on would win my vote.
Cindy Said:
on June 5, 2008 at 4:20 am
Brenda, I think you’re right. Itl’s June 4 today (& I can see these posts were left a while back), but I’d hazard a guess “it aint over till it’s over.” Even tho Obama is the “apparent” nominee tonight, earlier today I tuned into my intuition. What I got was that something interesting is going to come out now about Obama. I think that’s why Hillary’s holding onto her well-earned delegates, she’s no stranger to politics. And Obama is a Chicago politician, a city absolutely not associated with above-board politics.
Guess time will tell, and as another poster said, “fasten your seatbelts.”
I’d also like to add, don’t believe everything you read in the news, the reporters aren’t entirely awake here either… Peace, All.